CRYSTAL COAST TEA PARTY PATRIOTS
29 MAY 2012
Meeting held at Golden Corral, Morehead City, NC
Meeting called to order at 6:00pm by Chairman BOB CAVANAUGH
Pledge of Allegiance led by LUKE KUKULINSKI
Invocation by STEVEN BEST
Attendance – 26
BOB recognized EULA PARKEN to talk about the pamphlet “Government Sin & Tyranny – 99 Ways Your Government Uses Your Taxes to Attack Your Values”, that she had purchased copies of, for the membership to donate to the treasury in order to get a copy. She touched on the high lights of the five Chapters in the pamphlet. (examples of the government using taxes forced from the hands of hard-working Americans to promote policies and agendas that undercut the morals and traditional values that make America great. Ie. (1) Pushing the Radical Homosexual Agenda; (2) The War Against Christianity and Religion, (3) The Assault of Radical Islam and Shariah Law on America, (4) War on Morals and Traditional Values, and (5) Pushing Abortion and the Culture of Death at Every Opportunity.“ Several members received copies through their donations.
PAT NALITZ also donated several copies of the pamphlet “The Area of Political War for Tea Parties” written by David Horowitz, to be gotten through donations to the treasury also.
Attendees discussed the “Law of the Seas Treaty” (LOST) and the dangers we see it creating. This Treaty dates all the way back to Ronald Reagan, who wanted no part of it, as well as George Bush, who said no also. But Obama (with Hillary’s blessing) is all for it. Obama still says, ‘take from the rich and give to the poor, and people here in the USA, think he is talking about still giving to them; however, he is talking about taking from everyone here in the USA (both rich and poor) and giving to countries overseas (many who hate us). The Treaty also reduces our navy guarding the sea lanes and allows the UN to take over that part of our defense also. The Treaty is supposed to come to a vote next month (June). KEN LANG said he wanted to find out how Senator Burr stood on this Treaty. It has been reported that there are some Republicans who are backing this Treaty and he was trying to find out if Burr was one of them. KEN recommended for those who are interested in more information, and have a computer, to go on line and check out LOST. It is on our web page and Face Book also. It will only go before the Senate (not the House) and will require a 2/3rds vote to pass. Discussion on we are only one vote in the UN. The way our rules read, even if the UN passes it and we don’t, then we don’t have to comply with it. At this point we still have the strongest Navy in the world, so if the UN wants to fight – then bring it on.
Discussion on Gun Control….Soros and his buying gun and ammunition plants…..Dept of Homeland Security trying to redefine ‘shotgun’….
Discussion on Obama’s Czars. The President has authority to nominate and appoint, with the consent of the Senate, ambassadors, public ministers and consulates, which it is thought that Czars would fall under that. Problem is Congress has been so non-confrontational with Obama, that is why he has been able to get away with all he has. None of these guys referred to as Czars in the Obama White House, have been confirmed by Congress. Supposedly it is OK to appoint without Congress approval if Congress is not in session; but Obama takes advantage of Congress having a weekend off or a holiday (not the 14 day required time), appoints a Czar and Congress doesn’t do anything about it. The blame is actually more on Congress than the President because they are letting him get away with it and many other things with no confrontation. They are not doing their job. So you end up with a President pushing the limits. BOB said this was one of the things he wanted to talk with Walter Jones about when he comes and speaks to us in June. Also wants to discuss how the President can rule by decree/executive orders. Can the Congress limit that?
PAT NALITZ asked if anyone had read “The Amateur”. You have to read it. It is a quick but interesting read.
RUTH PARKER brought up about all these drones that are being purchased by local authorities and federal government to essentially spy on people. LUKE KUKULINSKI said there was an article in the Drudge Report “Who is going to be the hero to shoot down the first American drone?” RUTH said what concerned her was who they were going to shoot on the ground. They can spy right into your home and tell exactly what you are doing, and you are not even aware of it’s presence. KEN said that is why Ron Paul was so upset about us killing that (American) Muslim terrorist without a trial. Everyone was probably pleased that he had been taken down, but the fact that he was an American, and we are supposed to be able to have a trial under our constitution and this guy was shot without a trial and one man (the President of the US) made the decision to do so. So now with 30,000 drones flying overhead in the US, will they invoke the same thing with any of the US citizens. With 30,000 drones in 50 states; that means we could have 600 in North Carolina alone….NC has 100 counties, so that means we could be having 6 flying over Carteret County at all times. Scary isn’t it? Especially with Obama having his “Assassination List” already being made up.
BOB said another thing he wanted to talk with Walter Jones about was the Treaty after Viet Nam, the ‘War Powers Act’ which is supposed to prevent us from getting into these long undeclared wars. Under the War Powers Act the President had the authority to use the military for like 90 days and then he had to go before Congress and justify what he was doing. (Discussion about Bush; whether or not he had gotten approval – decision was he had.) LUKE said that is what Jones’Impeachment Act was for …. Obama and Libya. BOB said it hasn’t been just Libya, but he has also sent forces into Uganda, (still there as advisors). KEN said it is up to Congress to fund these things….so if he were President, he would say ‘you gave me the money, so therefore you must approve of our being over there.’ Discussion over pulling money away from our troops, but KEN said Congress could designate where the money is to be spent and how. All they have to say is the money is to be used for withdrawal of our troops. This has to be; or else our troops will be forever in these countries without any way of ever getting out. In Viet Nam, Congress cut off the funding and they had to bring the troops home.
BOB brought the subject back to the elections (runoff in July and election in November). We are going to need to get the vote out as much as we can. The runoff election is for several state offices….one of the biggest being the Insurance Commissioner runoff race between Richard Morgan and Mike Causey. We supported Mike Causey in the primary. He pulled 59% of our vote to Richard Morgan’s 24% of the Carteret County vote. We need to duplicate that again. We need to do to Morgan what we did with Randy Ramsey. Morgan is the one who stated the folks in Raleigh, Charlotte, Greensboro, etc. should not have to pay for the high insurance rates of people on the coast….all those big waterfront homes. The people who live on the coast should have to pay. News for Morgan, the coast has not had that many major hurricanes in several years. A lot of hurricanes recently have gone through the middle of the state. Also, most of those big homes on the water are owned by the more wealthy who live in the middle of the state, ie. Raleigh, Charlotte, Durham, Greensboro, etc., and we here on the coast, who can not afford these luxury homes, have been paying for them for years. This is one of the things we need to stress in our letters to the editor when discussing the Causey/Morgan runoff race. Since this is going to be a state-wide runoff, we need to write letters outside the county also, like the Raleigh News & Observer, Winston Salem Journal, etc.; however, we need to argue differently state-wide from coastal counties, because down here people need to be aware that Richard Morgan wants to raise our insurance rates even higher than they already are here on the coast, because in his mind the people out west have to pay so much because we have all the hurricanes. This information had been posted on his web page, but he found out it was unpopular down here so he has taken it off. For letters to the western part of the state, we should stress his poor performance and poor relationship with the Republican party because he was actually censured by the Republican party for not fulfilling his obligations as a member of the Legislature and his affiliation with Jim Black. He had been booted off the executive committee for the state. Voter turnout for the runoff is going to be very, very low, so we need to talk to all our friends, neighbors, relatives, anyone you know, your email lists, etc., and encourage them to go and vote on the 17th of July. The TEA Party will try to man as many of the polls as we possibly can again and pass out our voter recommendation lists again. We do not have the funds to run the list in the newspaper because we will really need what cash we can accumulate by November for the main election. (Question raised as to the cost to run the shorter list in the paper just one time. BOB said about $200.00. Recommendation that we might run it at least once…if each of us here were to donate $10.00, then we could afford that.) BOB said he did not have the authority to spend the $200.00, but if everyone wanted to chip in and pay for it being published at least once, he had no problem with that. We are going to try to come up with the $200.00 in time to run the list prior to the July 17th runoff.
Discussion on the Secretary of State runoff. Our man we backed in the primary, Dr. Beitner did not win in the state (he did in Carteret). Discussion on Goodwin, a Republican, who HOWARD thinks is from Edenton, Chairman of the County Commissioners in a Democrat county. That county was in trouble financially and he has turned it around and they now have a surplus. BOB said that is certainly one of the races where we have to come up with a candidate since our guy did not win. BOB asked HOWARD to try to come up with more information so we can make a good decision and maybe try to get him to come and talk with us prior to the runoff. HOWARD said he would try. Maybe someone in Craven County might know how to get up with him, since they had him come and speak to them in James City just prior to the primary. HOWARD said he had gone to the meeting and had been very impressed with Goodwin. BOB said he and KEN were going up to Little Washington on Thursday to the Beaufort TEA Party and HOWARD asked them to see what they could come up with. BOB said one of the reasons they were going up there is because there is another Senate/House race up there in House District 6, between Art Williams and Maddy Lawson. Art Williams switched over from being a Democrat last October and is now running as a Republican. Maddy was one of the founders of the Outer Banks TEA Party. If BOB remembers correctly, Maddy won the race in the primary (numbers wise), but did not have more than 40% of the votes so there is going to be a runoff. J. Adams, who ran for County Commission as a Democrat recently and who came in third, has thrown his support behind Williams. Not that all his supporters will necessarily vote for Williams, but still it can be disconcerting to Lawson. Essentially Lawson was running against two Democrats (now RINOs)
and if she does win the runoff, she will be running against another Democrat in the general election. Art Williams is very well funded (kinda like a Randy Ramsey situation). Maddy had emailed BOB and wanted to know what we had done that was so successful in defeating a well funded candidate. BOB told her a barrage of letters to the editor getting the information out there to the people. The Beaufort Observer has been running articles on Art Williams being tapped by the folks in Raleigh to run on the Republican ticket. FRED DECKER said Art Williams is a car dealer and if we remember right, Randy was backed by the car dealers in this area. He is going to check the public records to see if any of our car dealers, who were in Randy’s court, were on the list up there. BOB said he and KEN were going to be talking to the Beaufort County TEA Party group about rallying behind Maddy. BOB asked those who would to please go on line (Outer Banks TEA Party web site, Truth or Dare Blog, etc) and get the available information on Art Williams and write letters to the editor and send to papers in the 6th District.
Discussion on the Craven County Tax Payers Association (TEA Party) (CCTA.org). Would like to take one of our meeting nights (that is not a Western Carteret meeting night) and all go to New Bern to their meeting. The group meets at the Bridgepoint Hotel. Their next meeting is the 19th of June but that too is a Western Carteret meeting night. Discussed where the hotel is. Decided it is there at the end of the bridge on this side of New Bern, on the triangle between the two bridges. HOWARD said he thinks there are two motels there and is pretty sure one of them is the Bridgepoint. Someone else said he thought there was a Texas Steak House there also. HOWARD said he had heard about a program they had conducted the week after the election but he felt he needed to be here to our meeting to discuss the election so had decided not to go. KEN said they have more structured meetings with guest speakers than we have. They have also done Agenda 21, a Marriage Amendment thing, etc. BOB asked how big a group they had and was told when guest speakers had been to the meeting, there were about 60 people in attendance.
BOB announced that Dan Forest would be here next week. Please get everyone you can to come out and hear him speak. Be here by 6:00. BOB said Forest would be speaking in Dare County in the morning and then speak to us here that evening. After he speaks with us here in Morehead, he will be going on down to Cape Carteret and speak with that TEA Party group. BOB said he didn’t think Forest would have any problem in winning his race. TOM HARMON wanted to know if we were going to publicize Forest’s speaking engagement with us. BOB said we need a letter to the editor this week (preferably Sunday’s paper) and also maybe get on Lockwood’s radio program to publicize his being here.
BOB announced that we had lost our ‘Uncle Sam’ Tim Buck, who marched with us in our parades. He had told BOB that he did not want to do it anymore, so we are looking for a replacement. It is not mandatory that we have to have an Uncle Sam, but he was a pretty big hit last year. FRED said he thought the uniform might fit Bill Hobbs and he would talk to him about filling that position. He would get up with him and let us know since we will need to know ASAP. The 4th of July parade is coming up soon.
BOB said we need to get confirmation from NANCY BOCK about the use of the trailer, decorations, flags, etc. EULA has volunteered her driveway again so we can meet there and decorate the float that morning. He asked PEGGY GARNER, since she was the one who contacted the officials in charge of the Beaufort parade last year, to see if she could get the information we will need to enter the parade this year. DENNIS TOMASO, who got our constitutions for us last year, is RVing out west seeing American, and since we have very few constitutions left, we need to get some prior to the parade, since it is a big hit when we hand them
out during the parade. ROMA WADE said then we definitely need to order some. BOB asked TOM HARMON if he would try to contact either Americans for Prosperity or American Heritage Foundation and get 1,000 at least if possible. DENNIS had gotten them for about $200.00 for 1000. RUTH asked about the little flags and did we still have any. BOB said he would check with NANCY. PEGGY reemphasized that she understood the folks who were riding on the float would volunteer to buy the candy to toss out to the kids. BOB said he understood that was what we had decided on. PEGGY just wanted to make sure everyone understood so that when we got there that day that we would have enough candy to throw for the entire length of the parade. BOB said just don’t buy any chocolate. It is going to be HOT and melted chocolate makes a big mess. RUTH reminded us that we needed to have the election runoff recommendations made up and copied so we could put them in the constitutions prior to handing them out during the parade.
HOWARD told BOB that we had been running our mouths so much tonight we had overlooked the fact that we had a couple of new faces with us. BOB apologized and asked them to please introduce themselves and tell us something about themselves. BELVA MANNING introduced James ‘Winky’ Chadwick from Mill Creek and Robert Metz, from Mill Creek also. Winky said he had gone to the rally we had over by Kmart. He was a pastor in Mill Creek so his time was limited for attending meetings, but he had decided to just take tonight off and stop by and see what was going on.
KEN announced that ROY MUSSER had been involved in a motorcycle accident a day or two ago. He was over to KEN’s this afternoon and he is really scrubbed up, but OK. His face, ear, ankle, back, are scraped up pretty bad, but he did not break anything….except his motorcycle. He talked like it was fixable. The guy that caused the accident didn’t stop, but apparently there were a couple of witnesses.
KEN said the other thing he had was last week (Thursday) he and DIANE went to Raleigh and went to the Legislature, visited with Norm and Linda Sanderson at their office. They had tried to catch Pat McElraft but missed her. Then they had gone to the session in the General Assembly where there was a lot of discussion on annexation bills. There had been votes on them, but they were preliminary votes. Both passed. One was to de-annex the seven cities that had already taken over the areas they had incorporated. Some cities had already started putting in sewer and water and some had not. The residents of those areas were upset about being annexed without their approval. The other bill was to stop this from happening again anywhere else. These two bills would put NC in line with 30 or so other states that already prohibited forced annexation. He has heard that both these bills will pass, but that Gov. Perdue will probably veto them. If McCrory wins Governor, then these two bills, plus many others (like Voter ID) that were vetoed by Perdue will be reintroduced.
CLAYTON GILLIKIN wanted to know if anyone had or had read Obama’s autobiography ‘Roots from my father’. He recommended that one of our group get that book and send a portion from it each week , until the election, as a letter to the editor. KEN said there is a good book that already does sort of the analysis called “The Roots of Obama’s Rage”. He thinks CLAYTON has a good idea. KEN said he would probably try to read ’Roots From My Father’ (even though he hates to go out and buy a copy). Discussion on as to whether or not Obama wrote the two books he takes credit for. KEN said the small amount of excerpts from ‘Roots from my father’ in ‘The Roots of Obama’s Rage’, that he has read, sounds pretty well written, whether he wrote it or not. KEN said he heard that the two books have shown significant difference in the writing between them. It would appear two different people authored them.
LUKE said the Drudge Report said this week that the Obama administration was looking for some payments from the military on their health care. LUKE also asked if everyone had seen that video “If I wanted American to Fail”. It is excellent. If you haven’t seen it go to “freemarketamerica.org. KEN said you could also go to the Crystal Coast TEA Party web site and Face Book. You can find it there also.
Also it has been reported that Homeland Security has put out a list of 100 words that if you use on the internet communication, then they will investigate you. TOM said he had looked at the list and had put a reply in stating ‘Did anybody hear about al Qaida terrorism attack against Mexico with pork bombs.’ He’s expecting a knock on the door any day now. KEN said it was really interesting that news item broke about a day after he got an email about a guy up in the Asheville TEA Party area, who did get a knock on his door because he had written a letter (he has not seen the letter, it was not published with the email) that he sent to the administrator of EPA for the region that North Carolina is in. Didn’t go to Washington…it went to the regional director. They came down and investigated him because they said he had used words in his letter that were inflammatory. They actually came to his house, asked to come inside, (he willingly invited them in, because he had no idea why they were there) and one of the guys stood in his front door with his hand on his gun the whole time he was there. The local police had their car outside his door blocking the driveway. They interviewed this guy until he finally politely asked them to leave. He told them they were asking him questions that have absolutely nothing to do with what he did/wrote. KEN said he was wondering if they had used that list of special words to screen his emails.
GLADYS SUESSLE reminded everyone that on Saturday, June 2, they are having Military Appreciation Day. They are taking the military personnel out fishing, and those slots are all filled but there are family events going on for the kids and then there is a barbecue that evening. She and ED are volunteering to help, so if anyone else would like to volunteer to help, please give her your name and email and she will send it to the guy that is in charge. It will be held at the waterfront in Morehead. She and ED will be there at 5:30 in the morning (when the boat carrying the fishermen goes out); with various other events during the day….trip to Carrot Island…the Rachel Carson Preserve (she thinks)… They will have those blow up fun things that kids can play on….face painting…etc.
Meeting adjourned at 7:25 pm
Minutes submitted by PEGGY GARNER, Secretary